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[Richard]

I have been wondering the same things and came to similar conclusions.
I am the ultimate nice guy towards the ladies so I do have a LOT of female friends, who are just that. I am the shoulder to cry on when the latest jerk breaks their heart.

Absolute true story: 5 different women at different times and locations, have said to me "I wish all men were like you, you are the kind of man I have always dreamed of." I reply, "I'm available" she responds "sorry, not currently interested" What the HECK is wrong with me.

For me it's just so DAMN hard to be more "aggressive" or pushy or even TRY to be the "jerk". Which could work since many women wish to grab a jerk and then magically turn him into a nice guy...

I have lost all my hope. IF I am to many many women the ideal guy, who they are always looking for, yet the so nonchalantly pass me by and go for the assholes... maybe I SHOULD try that, it's just not IN me to be the jerk. So, I just stay true to who I am and die alone.

When women say u are the man they dreamed of, what they are doing is using their logical brain. They tell themselves logically they should be attracted to a guy like u, but women dont have a choice in who or what they are attracted to.

[Richard]

Theyre attracted to a man who makes them feel EMOTIONS. No amount of logic or being nice is going to change that. Attraction isnt a choice.

[good4u]

Theyre attracted to a man who makes them feel EMOTIONS. No amount of logic or being nice is going to change that. Attraction isnt a choice.

Richard, I swear you sound like such an operator...

[Richard]

What kind of operator? A smooth operator, in the words of sade

[good4u]

What kind of operator? A smooth operator, in the words of sade

Uh-huh....

[Richard]

Btw, Sade is excellent music when u got a girl back to ur place and u want to 'put her in the mood' lol yeah lights dimmed, scented candles, wine, (even though i dont like it) and a bit of Sade.

[Lj]

ive always been pretty oblivious when it comes to relationships. the best advice i can give you, is that if you are into more aggressive affectionate women, you put them in your friend zone first (make sure they know this). sure, it sounds counter productive, but as friends its much easier to be yourself. once they cant take it anymore, they will make advances. or in my case, they will jump you. its all about how you present yourself in the process of finding affection.

[denverdrew]

"I'm sick of this bull shit, I'm going to just say something, and not give a rat's ass what she says back."

The way I look at it is, if I don't say something, I'll go the rest of my life wondering what could have happened. I'd rather have the rejection than that feeling of "what if."


That about sums it up. Just take action - you cannot live in fear of offending her by trying to get with her. Think of it this way - you might offend her even more if you DONT take action. She'll just think - "wow, well I really like this guy, I wish he would make a move - I guess he just isn't in to me like that..." Then they move on and you lost the chance, probably forever. Strike while the iron is hot. Girls want it just as bad as guys want it.

[Sky Tim]

REAL MEN & REAL WOMEN Finish FIRST...."PERIOD" ....Never confuse Real Men....with Nice Guys. "Nice guys" are a "titled" or "branded" that.... by Confused Women,and Confused Men. No "Real Man" wants to known or referred as only, a Nice guy. REAL MEN are..."Nice" + Positive, Reliable, Responsible, Loving, Caring,Protecting, Sure Footed, Secure, Understanding, Helpful, Courteous, Kind, Cheerful, Brave,Solid,Clean,Confidence and Reverence, & Can be "ONE Bad Boy" if Necessary,. Did you notice..."Nice guy" is Included....in "These Qualities". Its not enough to be, just a Nice Guy...It is NOT DESIRABLE, to a Real WOMEN. The "Nice Guy" thing wouldnt have worked 1000, 500 or even 100 years ago. So what makes you think it will work Today?Come On Guys...If...you woke up tomorrow as a female...What are all the Qualities you would be looking for, in the Man, that you would feel you could Spend and Share the Rest of your Life with, Successfully ...ON THIS PLANET ?...and dont think you got all those qualities...YET ! A Real Woman will notice what you have already and will Encourage you, to Develope and Carve the Rest....! Accept Nothing Less... Any other kind of Woman or Man, are your basic titleless.."male or female" ....Moral to the Story ..."NICE GUYS & NICE GIRLS" dont have the Added Qualities to finish First! Done correctly...Everybody finishes...FIRST !!!!! note: assholes, jerks,wife beaters,criminals,sluts, bitches,& complainers....are Not real people! Avoid them, at all costs! .............................. superskytim

[infamous]

Yeah confidence matters but you can't compare confidence with ass full ness. Im guessing and im no expert because i have the same question but could it be that the girls want something quick and not serious right now in there life?