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[Dennis]

Why is it girls alwas say i want a nice loving, kind nd careing , ect , guy in there life nd wen thay get that king of guy in there life thay treat him like shit all the time.. Then the guy starts to change in the kind of person that treats every1 up to shit nd doesnt care for any1 nd then the girls go mad for him.... This is to all the girls out there do u really know what u want or do u jst like going round nd fucking up nd breaking the nice guys hearts all the time .. It must be a funny game for u girls

[Nordika]

bitterness will get you no where. Just saying.

And no, women don't go around with the sole purpose of breaking a 'nice guy's' heart. Perhaps your heart gets broken because you ARE a nice guy. It makes you more susceptible to the pain.

Women do like nice guys. That doesn't mean dull or a push over or door mat though. Some guys get that confused. You can be a nice guy without being walked on. Not all women, but a lot of us, prefer a man to be able to stand up, make decisions, take charge once and a while. Too often a nice guy is a cover for no spine.

This is coming from experience.

Whining, bitching, kvetching is NOT attractive on anyone - male or female. Being kind, sweet, thoughtful and respectful is. You can do that without laying prostrate on the floor and saying in action - walk all over me - because you will get stepped on. And if that's what you do, you really shouldn't complain that you got exactly what you set yourelf up for.

That sounds harsh, and I really truly don't mean it to, but I've just seen too many times guys and gals who say they are nice when really what they mean is they are easily bullied and then wonder why they are always taken advantage of, abused and left in pain.

[Jay]

I dont know if I could call myself a "bad boy"...
I have been arrested more than once, but never spent more than a night in jail. Ive been on probation, and I used to party alot , been in more than a few fights (under 6-7) and have even been to rehab.
But like everyone, I did reach a point where I wanted a steady GF and I found one who seemed to be really into me. But After a yr of partying with me, staying out all nite, and putting up with my habits of disregarding laws and being reckless, she seemed to loose interest, so I became more responsible and "safe".
I become what Im not, and now I feel like Im two different ppl sometimes. I tried to bring out the "bad girl" in her, and sometime it works and we'd have a blast, and sometimes it didnt and we'd have a fight.
I feel like she went back and forth about what she wanted, and the only time she acted like she really wanted to be with me is when I started acting like I am sick of her, and laid down the law..... so to speak...
You women are crazy sometimes (no offense) and I dont think any of you know what you really want. There are plenty of nice, law abiding citizens who never even got a parking ticket and would probably want to wait until you are married until you even have sex. They will pay your bills and even like your cute, little kitten, too.
I still party, but Im not a crackhead or anything like that. I believe what goes around comes around, so Im honest and dont steal from ppl. But I live life to the fullest, I dont have any qualms about tresspassing, owing $ to credit card companies, beating someones ass who has it coming( and I mean really has it coming-like when I saw a guy hitting his girl in the street) or any other victimless crime you can think of. I hate police, curse in public without even realizing Im saying it, drive like an asshole sometimes, and I dont really care if I offend the tight asses who might happen to be around me... I also like to learn and have a career in constuction, like animals, help ppl when I can, read, am an artist, and dont usually lie to the ppl Im close to. I believe in protecting the environment and treat women with respect...... So I guess Im not too "bad"..
I do, however, know guys who I would call "bad". These guys will beat up someone for no reason other than that they can -which makes them pussies in my book- Have stolen cars and dealt drugs on large scale,and been to prison for it, ( like having 20,000$ on them and a kilo of coke). They are usually covered in tats and just use and manipulate the ppl they get close to. Yet they sometimes have smoking hot girls wrapped around their finger . I dont understand this..
Where is the line between "bad boy" and scumbag-criminal.... and can girls even see this line? Do some even perfer the scumbag-criminal... And if so, is it just you women using the guy to fulfill some fantasy only for a short term thing? Or do girls actually want to try and settle down with a guy who is a career criminal like Tony Soprano?

[Dino]

I dont know if I could call myself a "bad boy"...
I have been arrested more than once, but never spent more than a night in jail. Ive been on probation, and I used to party alot , been in more than a few fights (under 6-7) and have even been to rehab.

No. That makes you an asshole and a total life failure, but nice try though.

[JohnW]

bitterness will get you no where. Just saying.

And no, women don't go around with the sole purpose of breaking a 'nice guy's' heart. Perhaps your heart gets broken because you ARE a nice guy. It makes you more susceptible to the pain.

Women do like nice guys. That doesn't mean dull or a push over or door mat though. Some guys get that confused. You can be a nice guy without being walked on. Not all women, but a lot of us, prefer a man to be able to stand up, make decisions, take charge once and a while. Too often a nice guy is a cover for no spine.

This is coming from experience.

Whining, bitching, kvetching is NOT attractive on anyone - male or female. Being kind, sweet, thoughtful and respectful is. You can do that without laying prostrate on the floor and saying in action - walk all over me - because you will get stepped on. And if that's what you do, you really shouldn't complain that you got exactly what you set yourelf up for.

That sounds harsh, and I really truly don't mean it to, but I've just seen too many times guys and gals who say they are nice when really what they mean is they are easily bullied and then wonder why they are always taken advantage of, abused and left in pain.

I agree with you! I am one of those good guys that isn't afraid to speak my mind and stand up for what I believe in and everybody men/women respects me in a big way cuz of it!